I spent a total of 7 1/2 months in Prince Sultan Air Base, Saudi Arabia supporting EA-6B squadrons forward deployed. We worked about 250 yards from the flightline, and you would see F-15s, F-16s, and various other birds take off fully loaded every day and come back empty. This was back in Jan '00 and Mar '01. One day I saw 15+ F-15s take off within 5 minutes, all fully strapped. This has been going on for a LONG time, it's just getting more publicity now because Bush has a personal agenda now... fourZero